tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post6279906373748070335..comments2023-06-17T08:53:42.643-04:00Comments on ShysterBall: 50 Million Orioles Fans Can't Be WrongCraig Calcaterrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-74770800742244998232008-08-15T19:27:00.000-04:002008-08-15T19:27:00.000-04:00I never realized how personally the residents of C...I never realized how personally the residents of Charm City took The Wire. Trust me, any time you get flack about your hometown, just point to Detroit. They're pretty much going through the fourth season of The Wire right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-6185053126928715992008-08-15T18:56:00.000-04:002008-08-15T18:56:00.000-04:00Any time I read something about the park in Baltim...Any time I read something about the park in Baltimore, San Fran or Seattle, I remember how the city of Phila-frakin-delphia F****ED UP!!!!! putting their new stadium in South Philadelphia instead of either near the center, on the water, or over by UPenn & Franklin Field/Palestra area. It just P****S me off so much I can't take it!!!~bigcatasromahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08429334461232731479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-65216703727684637412008-08-15T18:39:00.000-04:002008-08-15T18:39:00.000-04:00Let this be a lesson to all cities: do not hire, d...Let this be a lesson to all cities: do not hire, develop or succor a writing talent like David Simon. The writer will only turn on you, and use your faults against you. Sure, you may be like most other cities, with your failing schools and high levels of drug-related violence, but you have something special and you will pay for it dearly.SKateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906886533045294546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-8445533919021033482008-08-15T17:34:00.000-04:002008-08-15T17:34:00.000-04:00I think I read somewhere that the Camden Yards pro...I think I read somewhere that the Camden Yards project, while transforming the inner harbor, still cost the state of Maryland boatloads of money that was not made back as predicted.<BR/><BR/>So it's a bit overstating the case that Camden Yards actually brought economic benefit to the city, because it was really massive public spending that made it all happen anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-88331854848830765972008-08-15T16:46:00.000-04:002008-08-15T16:46:00.000-04:00Do you think they'll be able to identify exactly w...Do you think they'll be able to identify exactly who the 50,000,000th fan is? Will there be balloons and confetti when he walks through the turnstile? Will it be like an obnoxious blinking banner ad? I think I better start going to O's games for a while.Alex Brissettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086579343090860001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-16004154820372459612008-08-15T16:06:00.000-04:002008-08-15T16:06:00.000-04:00Oh, well, I didn't mean to offend at all; I'm just...Oh, well, I didn't mean to offend at all; I'm just full of angst about Baltimore I guess. Sorry.<BR/><BR/>It is a genuine thought though that the revitalization that took over the Inner Harbor s really impressive - the fact that that happened 30 years ago and then nothing else happened to help the city out shouldn't necessarily take away from the accomplishment I don't think. A good baseball team for a change would certainly help things, though. Most nights are empty around there unless there's a popular opponent in town.<BR/><BR/>But - Camden Yards is still a great place to be and probably one of the things that still draw people into the city for a visit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-84889771950547509762008-08-15T16:05:00.000-04:002008-08-15T16:05:00.000-04:00Truth be told, I've never watched one episode of "...Truth be told, I've never watched one episode of "The Wire"; I simply relied on the reports of friends that 1) it's a great show, and 2) it's set in Baltimore.<BR/><BR/>It strikes me as almost not right that Baltimore is a city with a high crime rate...I mean, to me, the name "Baltimore" sounds like it should be a cheery, happy place. Are the Orioles that depressing? Are people just too crabby? Thanks, I'll be here all week.tadthebadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850610376839190688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-68881161616730181742008-08-15T15:55:00.000-04:002008-08-15T15:55:00.000-04:00Aoor: um, natural conversation flow among people ...Aoor: um, natural conversation flow among people and the simple fact that the world is a place of blurry lines and ambiguities? Please tell me which of these assertions are wrong:<BR/><BR/>1. Camden Yards is nice park.<BR/><BR/>2. It is a popular stadium that has drawn a lot of people.<BR/><BR/>3. As has been often noted in recent years, Camden Yards has been a place where fans of other east coast teams (i.e. Boston and New York) can more easily and cheaply get tickets to see their teams, thus creating a phenomenon -- distressing to Orioles fans -- of the park seemingly being taken over by fans of the visiting teams;<BR/><BR/>4. While often cited as a revitilization engine, it really is only part of the Inner Harbor's revitilization, and the Inner Harbor revitilization is only a part of Baltimore.<BR/><BR/>5. Despite the fact that many people -- myself included -- love the vibe, culture, food, and other things about the town -- Baltimore remains a largely depressed city with a very high crime rate.<BR/><BR/>6. The Wire and Homicide: Life on the Street takes place in Balitmore. Many people only know Baltimore through Homicide and/or the Wire.<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry if I and the commenters have failed to promote the city the way the Chamber of Commerce would like.Craig Calcaterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-25575189913443759492008-08-15T15:44:00.000-04:002008-08-15T15:44:00.000-04:00Craig, how did it go from an article reference abo...Craig, how did it go from an article reference about Camden Yards being the first to 50 million fans, and how its still a nice stadium, all the way to the cynical "Well, it was mostly Yankee fans" and finally down to "Oh, and Baltimore is a shit place to be."<BR/><BR/>Nice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-48298469977111869352008-08-15T15:42:00.000-04:002008-08-15T15:42:00.000-04:00Man, all anybody thinks of when they think Baltimo...Man, all anybody thinks of when they think Baltimore anymore is "The Wire"...as great as that show is (and it is really great), it's getting almost annoying that that is the only thing anybody has to say about Baltimore anymore.<BR/><BR/>The downtown Inner Harbor Camden Yards area of the city is as pleasant a place to be as anywhere, and that that part of the city used to be rotting warehouses and empty piers is the testament to the revitalization of the area more than the rest of its city problems (crime, homelessness, etc.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-34841491046041213112008-08-15T15:23:00.000-04:002008-08-15T15:23:00.000-04:00That is what I suspected, CC. We're talking about...That is what I suspected, CC. We're talking about the setting of "The Wire" after all, right?tadthebadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850610376839190688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-33148427946418056602008-08-15T15:09:00.000-04:002008-08-15T15:09:00.000-04:00Someone else who knows Baltimore more than me can ...Someone else who knows Baltimore more than me can chime in here, but I think that it's more accurate to say that Camden Yards was but a part of a larger revitalization project -- even if it was the most visable part -- rather than the spur for growth and renewal in and of itself.<BR/><BR/>And even with that, the Inner Harbor is a but a small part of a large city which, if I may say, hasn't exactly been uplifted by stadium development.Craig Calcaterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-67378738982999454982008-08-15T15:05:00.000-04:002008-08-15T15:05:00.000-04:00It was written by an MLB.com gopher, so don't beli...It was written by an MLB.com gopher, so don't believe all of it without any further proof. Man, that sounded cynical. Oh well.tHeMARksMiThhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16445834941960575715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-84319810271839813542008-08-15T15:01:00.000-04:002008-08-15T15:01:00.000-04:00"Incorporated into the downtown area, Camden Yards..."Incorporated into the downtown area, Camden Yards began a revitalization process for the Inner Harbor that has led to a massive transformation of the waterfront in Baltimore."<BR/><BR/>Is this the rare example of a stadium actually bringing economic benefit to a city?tadthebadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850610376839190688noreply@blogger.com