tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post5040642710735680588..comments2023-06-17T08:53:42.643-04:00Comments on ShysterBall: Dave O'Brien Nails ItCraig Calcaterrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-47024659420048529572008-07-23T18:54:00.000-04:002008-07-23T18:54:00.000-04:00Yes, because people don't give up four prospects f...Yes, because people don't give up four prospects for two months of a reliever. The Braves can get three good prospects for him. Just wait until everyone freaks out. No one ever learns.Mark Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14016130056332949752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-31042081667093788922008-07-22T16:56:00.000-04:002008-07-22T16:56:00.000-04:00Good point, Alex. I guess I was only thinking of ...Good point, Alex. I guess I was only thinking of high budget teams need a 1bman who are, or pretend to be, contenders (the Mariners fitting into the latter of those). I guess I could see Angelos opening his wallet for Teixeira, especially since the Orioles have outperformed expectations this year.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16264246154526243474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-10582703462687309872008-07-22T16:32:00.000-04:002008-07-22T16:32:00.000-04:00"Seattle and maybe the Mets." Don't forget Baltim..."Seattle and maybe the Mets." Don't forget Baltimore. Tex is from the area and I'm sure Boras won't hesitate to say they're listening to offers from the O's.Alex Brissettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086579343090860001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-70950927836554634932008-07-22T16:26:00.000-04:002008-07-22T16:26:00.000-04:00Seriously, 8 years for 22-23 million a year? Tex ...Seriously, 8 years for 22-23 million a year? Tex is good, but he's not THAT good. I guess I thought he had slipped more than he really has (137 OPS+ is still nothing to be ashamed of), but he's not the absolute monster that Giambi was when the Yankees gave him that ridiculous deal. Tex does play better defense than the Giambino (actually, a dead musk ox plays better defense than Giambi). <BR/><BR/>I don't know, I guess I could see the Yankees paying $20 million a year since Giambi is coming off the books, but who else will really be in the bidding? Seattle and maybe the Mets. Enough for Boras to work his magic, I suppose.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16264246154526243474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-75903286793682271452008-07-22T16:22:00.000-04:002008-07-22T16:22:00.000-04:00Well...career: .285/.372/.535, this year: .281/.38...Well...career: .285/.372/.535, this year: .281/.384/.508. So, in basic terms, only his slugging is down, and I'm sure most will be quick to attribute that to his move away from a hitter's park. And well...his splits all say he's playing well and clutch and all that too, so I can't back up my argument, which is that I generally agree with O'Brien. I read FJM all the time too, so it kills me to use cliches like "he doesn't know how to win", but that's kinda how I feel about Tex. As a Braves fan, I feel like there's been too many times when he'll just take a walk with men on base. On the other hand, I feel like I've seen Chipper reach out and poke a single over the infield when the team needed a run. Opponents were trying to pitch around him, but he did what he had to do and drove in a run. Also, I think I remember seeing a quote by Tex recently that said, in short, "I'm happy with where my stats are this year." To me, that just screams a guy who's playing for his payday above all else. Why go for the RBI single, when an easy walk will pad your stats just as well? I'm not saying he doesn't want to win... Obviously this is a nebulous and subjective argument, but yeah, I'm on O'Brien's side here.Alex Brissettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086579343090860001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-33307830349308810672008-07-22T14:11:00.000-04:002008-07-22T14:11:00.000-04:00has he really been underperforming?has he really been underperforming?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05482564976744674459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-59159997214199741882008-07-22T13:55:00.000-04:002008-07-22T13:55:00.000-04:00See the Fire Joe Morgan take on the same article.See the <A HREF="http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/07/new-criterion-for-being-good-at.html" REL="nofollow">Fire Joe Morgan</A> take on the same article.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17497098225602598062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-63435981948059860882008-07-22T13:39:00.000-04:002008-07-22T13:39:00.000-04:00I've read good things about the development of som...I've read good things about the development of some of the Braves prospects traded for Tex (in particular, Neftali Feliz and Elvis Andrus). Unless the extra picks the Braves get for Tex walking turn out to be superstars, doesn't this look like Schuerholz's worst trade? Of course, I think much of the blame could lay with Tex himself -- if he weren't underperforming, the Braves might be in the race, and a playoff berth would make the trade look like a success after all.Alex Brissettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086579343090860001noreply@blogger.com