tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post242009771618540623..comments2023-06-17T08:53:42.643-04:00Comments on ShysterBall: A Complete 180Craig Calcaterrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-7899464819028456402008-11-20T14:03:00.001-05:002008-11-20T14:03:00.001-05:00Cool, thanks Rob!Cool, thanks Rob!Craig Calcaterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-30539879133732023032008-11-20T14:03:00.000-05:002008-11-20T14:03:00.000-05:00My guess on PacBell is that the author has the deg...My guess on PacBell is that the author has the degrees of rotation wrong. Candlestick was pointed in a generally northeasterly direction, whereas PacBell is pointed almost due east, as has been pointed out.<BR/><BR/>I would think that it's more likely that PacBell was originally designed to point in the same general direction as Candlestick.<BR/><BR/>[research...]<BR/><BR/>Yep, this article from a UC Davis publication indicates that the ballpark was rotated 90 degrees, not 180:<BR/><BR/>http://ucdavismagazine.ucdavis.edu/issues/win00/News_Baseball.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-463073845156043842008-11-20T09:50:00.000-05:002008-11-20T09:50:00.000-05:00And here I thought just about every stadium was bu...And here I thought just about every stadium was built with home plate on the west end, facing east, to avoid the setting sun in the batters' eyes. I mean, that seems to just be common sense, and it's generally accepted as the origin of the term "southpaw" as well, as I understand it. (Lefties would throw with the arm that's on the south side in that configuration) The more you know, I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-4111567638862736222008-11-19T19:04:00.000-05:002008-11-19T19:04:00.000-05:00Moose - your comment, "It seemed like a no-brainer...Moose - your comment,<BR/> "It seemed like a no-brainer to me and that designers would look around and see what resources and assets were in the area that could be incorporated into the design." <BR/><BR/> Pretty safe assumption on your part. I spent a lot of time studying design and architecture, and what you've outlined is pretty much the essence of what an architect is shooting for. Or, should be shooting for. <BR/><BR/> Texas Stadium, where the dallas cowboys play, has a big slotted hole in the roof, and the sunlight comes in at some strange angles. Word is that, somehow, the contractor was off on the layout by approx 30 degrees when they began construction, and by the time the architect figured it out,it was going to be too expensive to correct. The stadium itself was built to spec, it's just pointing in the wrong direction. The place looks ok on TV, but its a dump - has been for 20 years.RoyceTheBaseballHackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05932275312934663258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-23018114251235583392008-11-19T17:30:00.000-05:002008-11-19T17:30:00.000-05:00Christopher -- I can attest to the comment about c...Christopher -- I can attest to the comment about cold. My one game in PacBell/AT&T was a late April game against the Cubs in 2003. I sat in the leftfield bleachers, wore a fleece, and drank hot cocoa, and I was STILL freezing.Craig Calcaterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-41008035514762233992008-11-19T17:28:00.000-05:002008-11-19T17:28:00.000-05:00I can't really see how sunlight would really a...I can't really see how sunlight would really affect things, JE. The skyline is just to the northwest of the stadium, so if you had homeplate looking northwest, there would never be sunlight in the batters' eyes. Likewise, if the pitcher and fielders were facing southeast, the sun would not be a problem after, I dunno, late morning. In no event would it be a problem for gametime. Basically, it would be 180 reversed from where it is now, so sun wouldn't be an issue, I don't think.<BR/><BR/>My guess is that whoever designed that place was enamoured with the idea of balls being hit into the water a la AT&T, only they didn't realize that (a) the Ohio River ain't exactly the Bay; and (b) the place is still too far away from the water for balls to go in there anyway.Craig Calcaterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-81771655390611427072008-11-19T17:27:00.000-05:002008-11-19T17:27:00.000-05:00maps.google.com says that home plate faces directl...maps.google.com says that home plate faces directly east. so if home plate was flipped around, the left field stands would face the bay bridge and the downtown skyline, and the right field stands would face southwest - some hills, highways, and my apartment - nice, but not sublime.<BR/><BR/>Flipping it around for wind protection is actually way more important. The bleacher seats at pacbell might be the coldest place on earth during a night game in the summer. Cold enough to switch from beer to coffee. With the stadium situated as is, though, the wind is somewhat at the hitters back, and only blows in the faces of people in the cheap seats.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12553905801666686121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-31380672918647702782008-11-19T17:19:00.000-05:002008-11-19T17:19:00.000-05:00Your comments regarding GABP raise a question to s...Your comments regarding GABP raise a question to someone who has never been to the new joint: could sunlight concerns have been addressed with a stadium facing the Cincinnati skyline?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-53192734674648710432008-11-19T16:59:00.000-05:002008-11-19T16:59:00.000-05:00I think you've already given away that secret abou...I think you've already given away that secret about googling before. It has been on my list of "stolen blog ideas for my hypothetical blog" for a bit now.Alex Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12292568120251713623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-24301083527018943822008-11-19T16:42:00.000-05:002008-11-19T16:42:00.000-05:00It seemed like a no-brainer to me and that designe...It seemed like a no-brainer to me and that designers would look around and see what resources and assets were in the area that could be incorporated into the design. <BR/><BR/>Of course this criticism comes from a lay person not someone with degrees, certificates and year of experience.Mark Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08422034768135948388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-33973569215024514232008-11-19T16:34:00.000-05:002008-11-19T16:34:00.000-05:00That's my biggest beef with Great American. I eve...That's my biggest beef with Great American. I even wrote about it once last year or something. It just kills me that it faces away from the city. Instead we get some crappy condos on a Kentucky hillside overlooking a brownish river? Fabulous.Craig Calcaterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00190345915954808542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131289420618991795.post-27502796295469504922008-11-19T16:32:00.000-05:002008-11-19T16:32:00.000-05:00Too bad he wasn't available to turn Great American...Too bad he wasn't available to turn Great American Ballpark around as I personally think they should have had downtown Cincy as the outfield backdrop. I love the way PNC open to downtown Pittsburgh, especially at night with the Clemente Brigdge lit up.Mark Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08422034768135948388noreply@blogger.com